THURSDAY, AUGUST 25, 2005
MEMBERS PRESENT MEMBERS
ABSENT
Carol
Buskirk
STAFF PRESENT
Julie
Hoepfer, Administrative Assistant Al Brulo,
Township Engineer
Robert
Leonard, Zoning Administrator Brian
Dickson, DCPC
OTHERS PRESENT
John
Murphy, Alpha Consulting Mike
Russell
Steve
Weingarten Bob
Garland
Tim
Mellott, Mellott Engineering Linda
Turns
Bob
Ziltz, Act One Consultants Rob
Shaffer, Act One Consultants
Scott
McMackin, Cowan Associates Paul
Frank
Clarence
Brooks Mary
Ann Yahn
I.
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman
Zeiters.
II.
ROLL CALL
Noted by recording secretary.
III.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Bolt moved,
seconded by Mr. Moyer to approve the July 28, 2005 regular meeting
minutes. The motion passed with Ms.
Buskirk abstaining.
IV.
PUBLIC COMMENT
V. SUBDIVISION/LAND
DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS
B.
Preliminary and/or Final Subdivision/Land Development
Plans
1. #05.006 P/SB Sagewicke Annex, Houck Properties – Mr. Shaffer was in attendance to represent the
plan.
Mr. Brulo presented comments dated August 18, 2005:
#2 Provide a letter from the DCCD
approving the E & S plan and the renewal of the NPDES General permit.
#3E Determine if pipe collars will be needed for the pipe between inlet
126 and inlet 109.
#4 Regarding the modified TIS, use the ITE Trip Generation 7th
Edition dated 2003.
Mr. Leonard presented comments dated August 18, 2005:
#3 Limits of Disturbance lines need to encompass stormwater line into
wetlands
Ms. Buskirk presented the following EAS comments:
#1 Section 173-25G(b)[2] It is
recommended that planting islands be shown for both
ZO#1 A note should be placed on the plan referencing the deed
restrictions for lots close to and abutting the conservation easement for the
HSPOD.
Mr. Moyer expressed concern about the change of use from the original
preliminary plan.
Chairman Zeiters reported that Ms. Zemlock had done some legal research
on the issue, in which a superior court case stated a note on the preliminary
plan is binding. Chairman Zeiters
recommended the applicant request in writing a waiver from the Board of
Supervisors, of the note on the original preliminary plan regarding the
congregate care. Discussion occurred
regarding the cartway diameter of the cul-de-sac.
MOTION #1
Mr. Bolt moved, seconded by Mr. Moyer, to recommend approval of the
following waivers:
1. Section 173-25C Street Widths
2. Section 173-13C(12) Traffic impact study
3. Section 173-25F(2) Pavement design
4. Section 173-13B(3) Driveway profiles
5. Section 173-13B(22) Location of adjacent buildings
6. Section 173-13B(32) Sight distance and sight triangles
for driveways
7. Section 173-25F(10) Vertical curbing
8. Section 173-37
The motion passed unanimously.
MOTION #2
Mr. Bolt moved, seconded by Mr. Moyer, to recommend approval of
preliminary plan #05.006 for Sagewicke Annex, tax parcel #68-030-022,
contingent upon:
·
Approval of the
sewage planning module by DEP
·
Approval of the
erosion and sedimentation control plan and the NPDES Phase II by DCCD
·
Paying the fee in
lieu of parkland dedication
·
Posting of the
proper improvement guarantee
·
Connecting to
public sewer
·
Addressing
comments from the Environmental Advisory Council, Dauphin County Planning
Commission, Public Safety Advisory Board and the Park and Recreation Board.
·
Incorporation
staff and Township Engineer’s comments
·
Providing a
written waiver request to the Board of Supervisors of the note regarding the
congregate care on the original preliminary plan and have it so noted on this
plan.
The motion passed unanimously.
2. #05.011 F/LD Winslett Phase IV, Rustrum Realty – Mr. Murphy and Mr. Russell were in attendance to
represent the plan.
Mr. Brulo presented comments dated August 18, 2005:
#2 Submit an updated wetlands study including a water budget analysis
showing no impacts to the existing wetlands.
#6 Expand the emergency services turning analysis on sheet 13 to
include the Boulevard Entrance onto Rt 22.
#7 Provide a schedule for the widening of
Mr. Leonard stated his main concern was the feeding of the
wetlands. Mr. Leonard reported that he
met with Mr. Murphy and is satisfied the design changes will provide an
adequate source for wetlands.
Ms. Buskirk presented EAC comments:
Mr. Murphy stated there will be additional vegetation in the
cul-de-sacs and swales. He also
indicated they will accommodate as many EAC comments as possible.
Ms. Buskirk expressed her concern with the swales. Mr. Murphy will finalize details with the
Township Engineer.
Mr. Moyer asked about the status of the change of name for “
MOTION #1
Mr. Bolt moved, seconded by Mr. Moyer, to recommend approval of the
following waivers:
1. Section 143-6A(2)(a) Scale of original property
description
2. Section 143-6A(2)(d) Scale of subdivision
3. Section 143-6A(2) Individual driveway profile
4. Section 145-4E Street rights-of-way to construct
traffic circles
5. Section 145-4C Street right-of-way for boulevard entrance
6. Section 179-3B(1) Street trees within 5’of right of
way
The motion passed unanimously.
MOTION #2
Mr. Bolt moved, seconded by Ms. Buskirk, to recommend approval of final
subdivision plan #05.011 Winslett Phase IV, tax parcel #68-019-011 contingent
upon:
·
Submission of
Open Space Maintenance Plan with developer’s agreements
·
Approval of the
erosion and sedimentation control plan by DCCD
·
Paying fee in
lieu of parkland dedication
·
Posting of the
proper improvement guarantee and execution of a development agreement
·
Addressing
comments from the Environmental Advisory Council, Dauphin County Planning
Commission, Public Safety Advisory Board and the Park and Recreation Board
·
Other items
determined necessary by Township Ordinance
The motion passed unanimously.
3. #05.012 P/LD Townes @ Briar Creek – Mr. Mellott and Mr. Weingarten were in attendance to
represent the plan.
Mr. Brulo presented comments dated August 18, 2005:
#8 Regarding the autoturn analysis, provide data to insure that the
design vehicle meets the criteria of emergency services.
#9 Regarding the emergency access, provide an access restriction
detail, a means to delineate the access in the field to help direct emergency
services over the stabilized area, and a profile.
#12B Due to the narrowness of Dewey Drive and Myrtle Drive, the
Township should consider requesting the developer to upgrade the bituminous
material and widen the roads to 24’ which would include 10’ travel lanes and 2’
shoulders. We recommend the developer
obtain core borings to determine a proper design to upgrade the existing
bituminous material. Mr. Weingarten
stated it would be problematic and expensive for the developer to widen
Mr. Leonard presented the following comments:
#3 Turning radius for emergency
vehicles at entrance? Could 25’ radius
be increased for better access?
#4 No LOD shown on sheet 4-1,
although listed in key.
#6 Designated open spaces
identified by metes and bounds.
Mr. Leonard reported he spoke with Joel McNaughton regarding name of
streets around the loop road.
Hydrant locations were discussed.
Ms. Buskirk presented EAC comments:
#3 & #5 Add the limits of disturbance lines to the construction
sequence
ZO#2 Adequate water must reach the wetlands for it to stay viable. Mr. Mellott stated water is now directed to
the wetland through an inlet.
Mr. Moyer expressed his concern about the poor condition of the
existing roads. Ms. Buskirk expressed
concern about adding an addition 600 trips per day to small local streets. Discussion ensued regarding classification of
streets and the fact that this development dumps out on small local roads
instead of a major through street. The
Commission agreed the Board of Supervisors should be aware of the problems with
the existing street system impacted by this development.
MOTION
Ms. Buskirk moved, seconded by Mr. Zeiters, to recommend plan #05.012
P/LD Townes @ Briar Creek, of McNaughton Company, tax parcel #68-024-024 and
#68-042-032 not be approved based upon:
·
Section 195-89
Roadway standards
·
Section
173-25A(6) Street systems
·
Section 173-25B
·
Section 173-25A(2)
Street systems
The motion passed 3-1 with Mr. Bolt voting nay.
4. #05.014 F/LD Ciocca Dodge,
Mr. Brulo presented comments dated August 18, 2005:
#3 Provide a continuous Building Setback Line around the perimeter of
the entire lot.
#7 Provide the location of a fire hydrant on the plan, preferably at
the joint driveway with Ciocca Honda.
#8 Revise the driveway exit condition as the emergency vehicle travel
path is outside the curb on the exit lane.
#15 Provide an appraisal for FILO, using the value of one buildable
acre of land. Also, provide a written
exemption request to the BOS.
#18 Note to be placed on the plan stating that the sidewalk will be
installed when requested by the Township
#19 Provide a lighting plan.
#20 We recommend the owner provide a contribution towards the
improvements to Rt 22/Bretz Drive.
Brian Dickson, DCPC, presented comments dated 8/24/05:
#12 Suggest sidewalks are jointly coordinated.
#13 Dealing with a large number of vehicles, conform with all air &
water quality standards
#14 County would prefer to see one driveway entrance/exit for both
dealerships onto Rt 22 and
Mr. Leonard presented the following comments:
#2 Stormwater easements are changing.
#5 Utility easements have changed and need to be shown.
ZO#1 Need photometric plan of lighting.
#2 Parking lot needs islands and tree landscaping.
#3 10’ buffer for head-in parking needs landscaping.
Ms. Buskirk presented EAC comments:
#6 Drainage and stormwater management
Discussion regarding mitigated wetlands.
Hydrant locations discussed.
MOTION #1
Mr. Bolt moved, seconded by Mr. Moyer, to recommend approval of the
following wavier:
1. Section 173-11A Preliminary plan requirements
The motion passed unanimously.
MOTION #2
Mr. Bolt moved, seconded by Ms. Buskirk, to recommend approval of final
land development plan #05.014 Ciocca Dodge, tax parcel #68-035-021 contingent
upon:
·
Approval of the
sewage planning module by DEP
·
Approval of the
erosion and sedimentation control plan by DCCD
·
NPDES Phase II
permit from DEP
·
Paying the fee in
lieu of parkland dedication
·
Approval of
waivers by BOS
·
Addressing
comments from the Environmental Advisory Council, Dauphin County Planning
Commission, Public Safety Advisory Board and the Park and Recreation Board
·
Incorporating
Township engineer’s comments
·
Addressing staff
review comments
·
Other items as
determined by the Township
The motion passed unanimously.
5. #05.015 F/LD
Mr. Brulo presented comments dated August 18, 2005:
#1B The applicant requests that the sidewalk be located outside the
street right of way and be treated as an interior pathway. The Commission should consider the precedent
that this request will make relative to the location of other future sidewalks
and how they will tie into each other.
#1C Applicant requests FILO calculation be based upon the 6,000 square
feet improvement.
#7 Provide an access easement and maintenance agreement and show it on
the plan with metes and bounds for the entrances from Rt 22 and
#8 Provide a lighting detail, photometric values and a photometric plan
#9 Provide spot elevations and calculations showing that runoff will
not be more concentrated than existing conditions as it enters the Sudavi
property or the Rt 22 right of way. Mr.
Brulo suggested some underground infiltration.
Mr. Dickson, DCPC, presented the following comments:
#7 Please verify that with the addition to the existing building, that
the non-pervious surface coverage of the property dose not exceed 75%.
Mr. Leonard reported that sidewalks should be shown along
Ms. Buskirk asked that the location of existing man-made features
adjacent to proposed site; soils h soul be shown on the plan. The storm sewer by Poppi Al’s should be shown
on the plan.
MOTION #1
Mr. Moyer moved, seconded by Ms. Buskirk, to recommend approval of the
following waivers:
1. Section 173-11A Preliminary plan requirements
2. Section 173-27B Placement of sidewalks
3. Section 173-37C(1) Paying fee in lieu of land
dedication
The motion passed unanimously.
MOTION #2
Mr. Moyer moved, seconded by Ms. Buskirk, to recommend approval of
final land development plan #05.015, 7760 Allentown Boulevard, tax parcel
#68-025-027 contingent upon:
·
Approval of the
erosion and sedimentation control plan by DCCD
·
Paying the fee in
lieu of parkland dedication
·
Possible
contribution towards the
·
Granting of
waivers by BOS
·
Addressing
comments from the Environmental Advisory Council, Dauphin County Planning
Commission, Public Safety Advisory Board and the Park and Recreation Board
·
Addressing staff
and Township engineer’s review comments
·
Other items
determined necessary by the Township
The motion passed unanimously.
Mary Ann Yahn,
The meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.