WEST HANOVER TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION

7171 ALLENTOWN BOULEVARD, HARRISBURG, PA  17112

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2005

 

MEMBERS PRESENT                                                          MEMBERS ABSENT

Jim Zeiters                                                                                Barbara Zemlock

David Wingeard                                                                        Terry Bailey

Rick Bolt                                                                                  Marlin Moyer

Carol Buskirk

 

STAFF PRESENT

Julie Hoepfer, Administrative Assistant                                       Al Brulo, Township Engineer

Robert Leonard, Zoning Administrator                                        Omar Syed, DCPC

 

OTHERS PRESENT

Jim Cieri, Act One Consulting                                        Linda Turns

Ed Martin                                                                     Scott May

 

I.                   CALL TO ORDER

 

The meeting was called to order at 7:03 p.m. by Chairman Zeiters.

 

II.                ROLL CALL

 

            Noted by recording secretary.

 

III.             APPROVAL OF MINUTES

 

Ms. Buskirk moved, seconded by Mr. Bolt to approve the August 25, 2005 regular meeting minutes.  The motion passed with Mr. Wingeard abstaining.

 

The September 14, 2005 Workshop meeting minutes will appear on the October agenda for approval.

 

IV.              PUBLIC COMMENT

 

Linda Turns, 8000 Rabbit Lane – Ms. Turns stated she has lived on Rabbit Lane since the 1960’s and the road has been tar and chip for 40 years.  Ms. Turns stated she does not understand why a 4’ expansion of Rabbit Lane was recommend, for $50,000, when the entire road could have been upgraded for about the same price.  Ms. Turns suggested the Township start to ask developers to upgrade substandard roads instead of asking for improvements that will not be driven on.

 

Mr. Brulo noted that recommendations are made based on the ordinances, but negotiated by the Board of Supervisors.  In this particular case the Board desired the extra footage as opposed to overlaying of the entire road.  Widening of Rabbit Lane was done for safety reasons.  Ms. Turns restated that she feels it is a waste of money to pave a ROW when the road itself is substandard.  It would be so much better to have the entire road brought up to standard.  Ms. Turns asked that the PC look at HRG recommendations closer so the Board of Supervisors understands what is going on.

 

Ed Martin, 7043 Red Top Road – Mr. Martin stated his property was recently rezoned from Hanoverdale Hamlet to Flexible Rural Agriculture.  Mr. Martin asked that his property be considered for Neighborhood Commercial zoning.  Chairman Zeiters indicated the property was on the list for reconsideration.  (parcels 68-039-098 & 096).

Scott May, 7833 Dewey Drive – Mr. May expressed his concern regarding the 96 unit development proposed off of Dewey Drive.  Mr. May asked if any road studies have been completed.

 

Mr. Brulo stated they have, and core borings are now being done to analyze the depth of pavement on Dewey Drive and what the roadway width needs to be to handle the additional traffic of 600-700 trips per day.  An option being considered is to widen the road to 24’.  Mr. May added that the amount of traffic proposed is unseen in that little neighborhood.  Chairman Zeiters agreed that this is a big concern of the Township.

 

V.         SUBDIVISION/LAND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS

 

A.                 Sketch Plan

 

B.                 Preliminary and/or Final Subdivision/Land Development Plans

 

1.       #05.016 F/SB Brookview Phase II – Mr. Cieri, Act One Consultants was in attendance to represent the plan.

 

Mr. Brulo reviewed the following comments from his September 15, 2005 report:

#1B  Submit a letter summarizing the projected number of units in the previously submitted TIS versus the number of units currently being proposed.

#2E  Insure that the design vehicle is consistent with the emergency services requirements, there will be no overhang on the curb, no turning into oncoming lanes, allow for snow storage against curbs, and show turning movements for east and westbound vehicles turning onto northbound Fort Stewart Drive at the median area.

#14B  Show the location of the emergency spillway for Detention Area 2 in plan view.

#14D  Provide conveyance facilities on the plan and in the drainage report from the storm sewer outfalls to the receiving existing drainage conveyance facilities from the cul-de-sac on Beaver Creek Road and from the temporary cul-de-sac on Fort Stewart Drive.

#14E  Provide a drainage and grading plan for the pipe under Sandy Hollow Road from the church that was not picked up on the original survey.

 

Omar Syed, DCPC, reviewed the County comments.

 

Mr. Leonard, presented comments dated September 14, 2005:

#1  Location map is not accurate fro Phase II

#2  Survey monuments not shown on plan.

#6  Move fire hydrant from between lots 34 and 35 to between 33 and 34.  (PSAB comments were reviewed)

Zoning

#1  Stormwater detention ponds are not permitted use in Open Space.  Mr. Cieri indicated they have over 1.2 acres of additional open space and will remove the ponds from the open space.  Calculations will be updated.

#2  Level three screening requires 2 of the 4 options to be used.  Mr. Cieri stated a fence and evergreen screen detail will be provided.

#3  Provide infiltration details.

Mr. Leonard added that there is still a FILO credit from the pavilion to be applied to this phase.

 

Ms. Buskirk presented the EAC comments dated September 14, 2005:

#2  Verify infiltration will occur for roof drains.  Mr. Cieri indicated test were performed and results are forthcoming.

Zoning #1  WPOD – Proposed plan shows most of lot 6 and a large part of lots 4 and 5 and lots 1 and 2 within the WPOD.  Owners will have extremely limited use of yards as a result.  Is there any possible way to reconfigure these lots?  Mr. Cieri indicated they are nice sized lots and there is a split rail fence to keep owners from disturbing the protected areas, however, Mr. Cieri will look into reconfiguring lot 6.

 

There was additional discussion regarding the detention ponds being absorbed into an existing lot or a separate lot of their own.  Mr. Cieri will check with the developer to determine the homeowner association documentation for maintenance of the ponds.

 

MOTION

Ms. Buskirk moved, seconded by Mr. Wingeard to table plan #05.016 Brookview Phase II, due to outstanding staff and engineering comments.  The motion passed unanimously.

 

VI.       OLD BUSINESS
 
  1. Properties to be Considered for Rezoning – Ms. Buskirk asked why the Raffensperger property was not included on the list.  Mr. Leonard stated this list was from the Board and they did not recommend it back to the Commission for reconsideration.  There was considerable discussion on the various properties.  A public meeting will be advertised for 6 p.m. on October 27, 2005 and owners on the list will be notified.

 

Mr. Bolt asked for a better representation of the lot lines for the next meeting.

 

VII.      NEW BUSINESS

 

A.        Dauphin County Planning Commission Comprehensive Plan – Mr. Leonard stated draft land use maps have been received and most of the Township’s comments have been addressed.

 

B.         Act 537 Plan Comments - Tabled

 

C.         Park & Recreation Board – Skyline Commons Park Grant – Mr. Leonard reported the Park and Recreation Board is resubmitting the grant that was denied last year for improvements to Skyline Commons Park.  A memo of support from the Planning Commission will be provided.

 

VIII.        OTHER BUSINESS THAT MAY COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION

 

Ms. Buskirk announced that the restoration of the Sandy Hollow Cemetery is now complete and invited everyone to view the results.

 

IX.              ADJOURNMENT

 

The meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.