WEST HANOVER TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION

7171 ALLENTOWN BOULEVARD, HARRISBURG, PA  17112

THURSDAY, MARCH 22, 2007

 

MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                  MEMBERS ABSENT

Jim Zeiters

Marlin Moyer

Bill Ostermayer

Carol Buskirk

Rick Bolt

Gerald Longenecker

David Wingeard

 

STAFF PRESENT

Robert Leonard, Zoning Administrator

Al Brulo, Township Engineer                                                           Brian Dickson, DCPC

 

OTHERS PRESENT

Chris Keller                                                                                       Craig Adler

Tom Morrett                                                                                      Neil Shatto

Craig Bachik                                                                                      Drew Williams

 

I.               TO ORDER

 

The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Zeiters. 

 

II.             ROLL CALL

 

              Noted by recording secretary.

 

III.           APPROVAL OF MINUTES

 

Mr. Moyer, moved seconded by Mr. Ostermayer to approve the February 22, 2007 regular meeting minutes.  The motion passed unanimously.

 

Chairman Zeiters pointed out that Evergreen Ridge is the first item on the agenda for tonight.  A paper recently reported there would be a public hearing at this meeting, this is not a public hearing and that was an error by the paper.  The Evergreen Ridge plan has been submitted as a land development plan which is permitted by the zoning district and it will be reviewed just like any other plan.  The staff goes over their comments first and then the floor will be opened for public comment.

 

IV.           PUBLIC COMMENT

 

V.          SUBDIVISION/LAND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS

 

A.             Conferral/Sketch Plan

 

B.             Preliminary and/or Final Subdivision/Land Development Plans

 

1.    #06.017 F/LD Summit Restaurant EAST – Tabled, time extension until June, 30, 2007.

 

2.     #07.002 P/SB/LD Evergreen Ridge – Mr. Keller & Mr. Adler represented the plan.  Mr. Leonard noted the 90 day time period expires on April 24, 2007.  A time extension will need to be granted.

 

Mr. Brulo noted the following comments from his report dated March 15, 2007:

 

#3  Provide a letter from DCCD submitting the E & S plan and the NPDES Phase 2 General Permit.  Final approval will come with final plan. 

#4  Provide streetlighting facilities and footcandle information at the property line.

#6  Submit an easement agreement for the shared driveway.

#7  Provide a maintenance agreement for the driveway.

#8C  Soils evaluation – assumed rates may be used for preliminary plan.  Soils testing shall be a requirement for final plan approval.

#8R  Calculations show that the 100 year storm elevation of the water surface is within 0.28 feet of the centerline of the road in at least one case.  Concern for structural stability of the subgrade.  Corings will be needed and there may be a need for a guide rail or curbing.

#8T  Provide easement agreements and/or deed restrictions for stormwater management facilities on both Lots 1 & 3.

#10A Proportional impact analyses have been completed based on the horizon year.  These analyses need to be completed based on an opening year traffic volume.

#10C  Peak hour traffic warrants appear to be met upon opening of the development.  Consequently, signalization of this intersection is required concurrent with development.

#10D  Clearly identify the AutoTurn analysis was conducted for the appropriate Township emergency vehicles.

#12A  Provide a copy of the HOP permit from PENNDOT.

#12H  Clearly identify any public or private road width and/or right of way deviations from the ordinance and either revise or request/justify a waiver.

#12I  Provide appropriate signage consisting of “No Trucks or Buses Except Residential Deliveries” to prevent lost trucks from turning around on Capital Drive.

#12K  Since Capital Drive was constructed as a driveway it was not inspected by the Township.  Please meet with Township to develop a plan to insure compliance with construction specifications.

 

Mr. Leonard presented comments from his report dated March 6, 2007:

 

#1  Need third choice for street names.  Township already has an Evergreen Lane and a Cedar Lane.

#2  Construction and permanent easement agreements for stormwater pond on lot 3 are needed.

#7  All sheets will be recorded, not just 1, 2, 4, 5, & 7.

Zoning #1  A photometric plan for lighting is needed.

 

Ms. Buskirk reviewed the EAC comments dated March 15, 2007:

 

#5  Consider using porous pavers or other porous materials on driveways to assist in infiltration or stormwater runoff.  It was mentions previously that the emergency access road would utilize porous materials.  This does not appear on the plan.

#6  Trees along the southern property line should be described and protected from excavation.

#7  Plan should also show how trees location on neighboring properties will be protected during construction.

SWM #3  Explanation of infiltration beds is needed.  There is a discrepancy between drawings.

#4  How will compaction in infiltration beds be minimized during construction?  That type of equipment will be used. 

 

Many of the EAC and engineering comments were discussed at length and will be addressed where applicable.

 

Mr. Bolt asked that the slopes be graded better, looking for stability and for child restraints to restrict access to the stormwater pond.

 

Mr. Wingeard asked that existing homes along the property line be shown on sheet #10.

 

Chairman Zeiters opened the floor for public comment.

 

Charles Jackson, 7928 Slepian Street – Mr. Jackson expressed his disappointment with the Church and noted that the plan shown to him when he was in the process of purchasing his property showed open areas and nice soccer fields for the kids.  Mr. Jackson stated he hasn’t seen any current plans showing the townhouse development.  Also, a chain needs to be installed now to prevent daily use of the emergency access drive.

 

Chairman Zeiters reported that the Planning Commission was also under the impression that this area would remain open and ball fields provided.  The Board of Supervisors chose to change the zoning in this area, against the recommendation of the Planning Commission, which now allows for multi-family development.  Chairman Zeiters also explained that the plan as presented is now a permitted use.

 

TAPE ENDS AT THIS POINT.  Balance of minutes – per Bob’s notes.

 

Jim Messinger, 7932 Slepian Street – Mr. Messinger noted the Church and the developer have no credibility.  Rt. 39 traffic is a big concern and asked the Township’s help in preserving mature trees and wild life.  Mr. Messinger stated he is a long term resident.

 

Marshall Dews, 7924 Slepian Street – Mr. Dews feels they are getting boxed in by developers.  He is also a long term resident and feels there is too much development in the Township.  Mr. Dews also cited Rt. 39 traffic concerns and stated that open land at least provided a buffer.

 

Neil Shatto, 1452 Mumma Road – Mr. Shatto questioned the Emergency Access Drive construction.   Mr. McCahan noted that the PSAB reviewed the construction and it is adequate.

 

Paula Dews, 7924 Slepian Street – Ms. Dews noted the land was worth millions as shown in the public record transfer.  Ms. Dews stated all the land between the church and Slepian is wetlands.  The Rt. 39 emergency use is not adequate.  The land is national historic scene. 

 

Ray Hudson, 7916 Slepian Street – Mr. Hudson stated the church lied and there are no trees planted yet.  Slepian Street is being used as a construction entrance every day.

 

Charles Jackson – Mr. Jackson added that people stopped the casino in Gettysburg, and people can stop this development too.

 

Dave Harris, 310 Northstar Drive – Mr. Harris noted he moved to West Hanover because it was a rural area.  Now there are too many townhouses, condos and Rt. 39 traffic issues.

 

MOTION

Mr. Wingeard moved, seconded by Mr. Bolt to table plan #07.002 of Evergreen Ridge due to outstanding staff and engineering comments, contingent upon the submission of a time extension.  The motion passed unanimously.

 

3.     #07.003 F/SB Neil R & Josephine Shatto – Mr. Morrett and Mr. Shatto were in attendance to represent the plan. 

 

Mr. Brulo presented the comments from his report dated March 14, 2007:

 

#2  Label existing ROW for Mumma Road as “legal.”  Provide a deed of dedication with legal description and plat for the area being dedicated.  Clarify on the plan that the ROW being offered is fee simple.

#3  Show existing contours at two feet, except in areas where the slope is greater than 15%, in which case the contour interval shall be five feet, or request a waiver.

 

Mr. Dickson, DCPC, had no significant comments.

 

Mr. Leonard, Zoning Officer, had no significant comments.

 

Ms. Buskirk stated the EAC had no comments.

 

MOTION #1

Mr. Ostermayer moved, seconded by Ms. Buskirk, to recommend approval of the following waivers:

1.     Section 173-11A Preliminary plan requirements

2.     Section 173-11B(3)(h) Wetland study

3.     Section 173-11B(3)(b) Sewage planning module (non-building waiver)

4.     Section 173-37B(2) Dedication of parkland and FILO

5.     Section 173-11B(2)(d) Two foot contours

The motion passed unanimously.

 

MOTION #2

Mr. Ostermayer moved, seconded by Ms. Buskirk, to recommend approval of final subdivision plan #07.003 Neil R & Josephine E. Shatto, 1452 Mumma Road, tax parcel #68-007-014 & 047 contingent upon:

·       Approval of waivers by BOS

·       Addressing outstanding review comments from the Township staff, Township engineer, and other reviewing agencies, boards and commissions.

·       Other items determined necessary by Township Ordinances


The motion passed unanimously.

 

4.     #07.004 F/SB Charles & Lorie Barnes, Berkstone Circle – Craig Bachik, Kairos Engineering represented the plan.

 

Mr. Brulo stated his comments were administrative in nature.

 

Mr. Dickson, DCPC presented comments dated March 22, 2007:

#4  Verify no two residential driveways on abutting lots are closer to each other than 12 feet.

#5  Verify no residential driveway is closer to a side property line than three feet except shared driveways permitted.

 

Mr. Leonard asked that an appraisal of one buildable acre be submitted for the FILO calculation.

 

Ms. Buskirk reported the EAC had no comments.

 

MOTION #1

Mr. Ostermayer moved, seconded by Mr. Moyer to recommend approval of the following waivers:

1.     Section 173-11A Preliminary Plan Requirements

2.     Section 173-37B(2) Dedication of parkland

The motion passed unanimously.

 

MOTION #2

Mr. Ostermayer moved, seconded by Mr. Moyer to recommend approval of final subdivision plan #07.004 Charles R & Lorie A Barnes, tax parcel #68-024-219 contingent upon:

·       Approval of waivers by BOS

·       Paying the fee in lieu of land dedication

·       Addressing outstanding review comments from the Township staff, Township engineer, and other reviewing agencies, boards and committees.

·       Other items determined necessary by Township Ordinances.

The motion passed unanimously.

 

VIII.       NEW BUSINESS

 

IX.           OLD BUSINESS

 

A.    Text Amendment – Kairos Design/Williams Holding GroupMr. Williams and Mr. Bachik were present to discuss the proposed text changes to the NC District.  Mr. Bachik reviewed the revised text amendments to the NC District.  Considerable discussion took place.  Mr. Leonard noted that the changes as presented will not drastically alter the NC district as it is currently in place.

 

It was agreed to add (d) to Section 195-49C(2) “Maximum non-residential to be fifty percent (50%0 of lot area.


MOTION

Mr. Ostermayer moved, seconded by Mr. Wingeard to pass the amendment onto the BOS for review.  The motion passed with Mr. Longenecker abstaining.

 
X.             OTHER BUSINESS THAT MAY COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION

 

Chairman’s Comments – Chairman Zeiters reported that current Planning Commission members would be exempt from the proposal of mandatory schooling of new PC members.

 

XI.           ADJOURNMENT

 

The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.

 

 

NOTE:  There were no complete tapes of this meeting due to malfunction of recorder.