THURSDAY, MARCH
24, 2005
MEMBERS
PRESENT MEMBERS
ABSENT
David Wingeard Terry
Bailey
STAFF
PRESENT
Robert Leonard, Zoning Administrator Julie
Hoepfer, Administrative Assistant
OTHERS
PRESENT
Scott McMackin Doug
Gamber
Mark Magrecki John
Murphy
Tim Mellott Patti
Estheimer
Jim Cieri Roger
Hoffman
Bill Farmer
I.
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to
order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Zeiters.
II.
ROLL CALL
Noted
by recording secretary.
III.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Wingeard moved, seconded by Mr. Moyer to approve the February 24,
2005 regular meeting minutes. The motion
passed unanimously.
Mr. Wingeard moved, seconded by Mr. Moyer to approve the March 9, 2005
workshop meeting minutes. The motion
passed with Chairman Zeiters abstaining.
IV.
PUBLIC COMMENT
V. SUBDIVISION/LAND DEVELOPMENT
APPLICATIONS
B.
Preliminary and/or Final Subdivision/Land
Development Plans
1.
#04.020 F/LD F/LD
Mr. Brulo’s comments dated March 17, 2005
were discussed as follows:
#10C Provide
actual infiltration rates from field test.
Mr. Leonard’s comments dated March 11, 2005
were discussed as follows:
#2 Location
of existing well to be closed.
#4 Curbs are needed at entrances and around planting islands on
the south side of the parking lot.
#5 Is total drainage map supplied accurate?
Consider coordination with
Ms. Estheimer presented the
following EAC Comments:
#2 Landscaping requires groundcover planting details to be shown
for the areas around building and in the parking lot islands.
#4 EAC recommends use of eastern white pine instead of hemlocks
#5 Another landscape parking island may be needed in the row of
parking spaces in front of the building.
The Park & Recreation
Board recommends FILO.
Motion #1
Mr. Bolt moved, seconded by Ms. Zemlock, to
recommend approval of the following waivers:
1.
Section 173-12 Preliminary plan requirements
2.
Section 173-26 Curbs and gutters
3.
Section 173-37B
The motion passed with Mr. Wingeard voting
nay.
Motion #2
Mr. Bolt moved, seconded by Ms. Zemlock, to
recommend approval of final land development plan #04.020 , 128 Hershey Road of
Roger Hoffman, tax parcel #68-024-066 contingent upon:
·
Approval of the E & S plan and NPDES Phase II plan by DCCD
·
Approval of the HOP permit by PENNDOT
·
Submitting a sewage planning module to DEP
·
Paying the fee in lieu of parkland dedication
·
Posting of the proper improvement guarantee and execution of a
development agreement
·
Approval of waivers by the BOS
·
Addressing outstanding review comments from the Township Staff,
Township Engineer and other reviewing agencies, boards and commissions.
·
Other items determined necessary by Township Ordinances
The motion passed with Mr. Wingeard voting
nay.
2.
#05.001 F/LD/SB Ciocca Honda Dealership,
Mr. Brulo’s comments dated March 17, 2005
were presented as follows:
#3 Provide the required sight distance for SR 22 & SR
39. Mr. Murphy commented that there is
adequate sight distance and a copy of the HOP permit package will be provide to
the Township
#4 What type of access is provided to/from the service garage?
#9A Provide perc test results in the forebay area to confirm
infiltration and to confirm the facilities will drain without causing mosquito
problems.
#9B Provide a Snout Oil-Water-Debris separators information
relative to potential mosquito breeding.
#10 Provide a vertical curve to smooth out the 12.6% difference in
tangents on the south driveway profile.
Also, provide adequate radii for the entrance onto
#12 Provide geotechnical date confirming the stability of the
1.25:1 of the 15’ slopes on top of the retaining wall.
#13B The photometric plan shows that the illumination exceeds the
allowable 0.5 footcandles at the property line.
Mr. Leonard presented the
following comments from his report dated March 9, 2005:
#1 Provide details of lights.
Possible glare and slipover of light.
#2 Slopes at the top of retaining wall look very steep. Township Engineer will review design.
Mr. Dickson, DCPC, had no
additional comments.
Ms. Estheimer presented the
following EAC comments:
#2 Wildflower seed mix as indicated on the plan actually
contains no wildflower seeds. The EAC
recommends a mix from Ernst Conservation Seeds.
Motion #1
Ms. Zemlock moved, seconded by Mr. Wingeard
to recommend approval of the following waivers:
1.
Section 173-11A Preliminary plan requirements
2.
Section 173-37
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion #2
Ms. Zemlock moved, seconded by Mr. Wingeard
to recommend approval of final subdivision/land development plan #05.001 of
Ciocca Honda Dealership, tax parcel #68-035-021 & 030 contingent upon:
·
Approval of the sewage planning module by PA DEP
·
Approval of the E & S plan and NPDES Phase II permit by DCCD
·
Paying the fee in lieu of land dedication
·
Approval of waivers by BOS
·
Addressing comments from the EAC, Park and Recreation Board and Public
Safety Advisory Board.
·
Addressing Township Staff and Township Engineering comments
·
Approval of the HOP Permit by PENNDOT
·
Other items as determined necessary by Township Ordinances.
The motion passed unanimously.
3. #05.005 F/LD Tractor Supply Company,
Mr. Brulo’s comments dated March 17, 2005 were presented
as follows:
#3 Submit HOP
to Township for review. Consider
contribution to the intersection instead of curbing.
#7G Provide
more information for the storm sewer outfall east of the project such as the
need for easements, channel to receiving existing conveyance facility, right of
way, property owners, etc. when submitting the HOP.
#8 The
Jonestown Road widening detail needs to meet the requirements of the Township’s
Road Cut permit criteria including sawcutting, pavement depth, striping, M
& P of traffic etc.
#13 We
recommend the Township request the developer to enter into an agreement to
provide a contribution towards improvements to the intersection of
SR22/Jonestown Road/Blue Ridge.
Mr. Leonard presented the following comments from his
report dated March 9, 2005:
#3 Map needs
to show entire watershed.
#4 Need
appraisal to calculate FILO
Zoning: #1 Dumpster requires level three
screening. Can use perimeter as part of
screening.
#2 Wall
lights need cutoff to eliminate possibility of glare.
Mr. Leonard reported that an adjacent property owner
expressed concerns about an adequate visual barrier.
Mr. Dickson had no additional comments.
Ms. Estheimer presented the following EAC comments:
#1 The applicant
plans to restrict the use of
#2 Regarding
the valve designed to open the underdrain, who will be responsible?
Motion #1
Ms. Zemlock moved, seconded by Mr. Bolt to recommend
approval of the following waivers:
1.
Section 173-11A Preliminary plan requirements.
2.
Section 173-25E(6)(a) Clear sight triangle
3.
Section 173-37
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion #2
Ms. Zemlock moved, seconded by Mr. Bolt to
recommend approval of final land development plan #05.005, Tractor Supply
Company, tax parcel #68-028-026 contingent upon:
·
Approval of the sewage planning module by DEP
·
Approval of the E & S control plan and NPDES Phase II permit by DCCD
·
Paying the fee in lieu of parkland dedication
·
Approval of waivers by BOS
·
Posting of the proper improvement guarantee and execution of a
development agreement
·
Addressing comments from the EAC, Park and Recreation Board and Public
Safety Advisory Board
·
Addressing outstand staff and engineering review comments
·
Approval of the HOP permit by PENNDOT
·
Other items as determined necessary by Township Ordinances
The motion passed unanimously.
4. #05.006 P/SB Sagewicke Annex, Houck Properties -
Tabled
5. #05.007 F/SB
Mr. Brulo’s comments dated March 17, 2005 were presented
as follows:
#1D Provide the
LOD (in acreage) to determine if submission to DCCD is required. Mr. Mellott stated 1.7 acres.
#8 Revise the
wetland documentation.
Mr. Leonard presented comments from his report dated
March 7, 2005 as follows:
#3 Submit an
appraisal for the FILO calculation.
Waiver for E & S – Staff feels there has to be some E
& S controls shown on this plan to protect the environmental overlay
district now that the trees are gone.
Show general characterization of trees
Mr. Dickson had no comments.
Ms. Estheimer reviewed the following EAC comments”
#1 Final
specs require an E & S plan.
#6 The LOD
and the removal of trees on lot #1 goes beyond the 25 foot maximum allowed by
this section. LOD lines go through the
western side of the WPOD. Mr. Mellott
will provide a note on the plan that this area is to be seeded with extreme
caution.
Mr. Bolt stated he would like to see a super silt fence
and wondered if the sewer main layout was acceptable to the Authority. Mr. Mellott indicated he had not received any
comments stating otherwise.
Motion #1
Mr. Bolt moved, seconded by Ms. Zemlock to recommend
approval of the following waivers:
1.
Section 173-12 Preliminary plan requirements
2.
Section 173-11B(3)(a) E & S Control plan
3.
Section 173-11B(3)(f) Stormwater management plan
4.
Section 173-37
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion #2
Mr. Bolt moved, seconded by Ms. Zemlock to
recommend approval of final subdivision plan #
·
Approval of waivers by BOS
·
Sewage module approval by PA DEP
·
Addressing outstanding review comments from Township staff and Township
Engineer
·
Addressing comments from the EAC, Park and Recreation Board and Public
Safety Advisory Board.
·
Approval of the force main layout by the Water and Sewer Authority
·
Installation of a super silt fence
·
Other items determined necessary by Township Ordinances.
The motion passed unanimously.
6. #05.008 F/SB Geist-Yingst Property, Sandy Hollow &
Mr. Brulo had no significant comments.
Mr. Dickson had no significant comments.
Mr. Leonard had no significant comments.
The Park and Recreation Board recommended no parkland
dedication or FILO based upon no new lots being created.
Motion #1
Mr. Moyer moved, seconded by Mr. Wingeard to recommend
approval of the following waivers:
1.
Section 173-11A Preliminary plan requirements
2.
Section 173-37A & G Parkland dedication and fee in lieu
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion #2
Mr. Moyer moved, seconded by Mr. Wingeard to
recommend approval of final subdivision plan #05.008 Geist-Yingst Property, tax
parcel #68-022-101 & 095 contingent upon:
·
Approval of waivers by BOS
·
Addressing outstanding review comments from the Township staff,
Township Engineer, and other reviewing agencies, boards and commissions.
The motion passed unanimously.
A. Article XXIII, Signs, Sections 195-150 & 195-147 –
Chairman Zeiters noted that the Planning Commission looked at these changes
several months ago. There were no
additional comments.
Motion
Chairman Zeiters moved, seconded by Mr. Bolt to recommend
approval of the revisions to Sections 195-150 & 195 147 as presented. The motion passed unanimously.
B. Draft Future Land Use and Zoning Map – Considerable
discussion ensued regarding changes proposed by the Board of Supervisors. Written comments from Chairman Zeiters and
Ms. Buskirk were noted and attached to these minutes. By consensus the Commission agreed the
doubling of traffic on Route 39 was not acceptable as well as allowing zoning
changes (Yingst properties) that would encourage development outside the growth
area.
Chairman Zeiters noted that residents who
attended the public meetings stated again and again that they wanted to
maintain the rural character of the Township and specifically wanted
Motion
Chairman Zeiters moved,
seconded by Ms. Zemlock to recommend going back to the original Comprehensive
Plan Update and Zoning Map (except for the few small property changes) as prepared
by the Planning Commission. By allowing
the proposed changes on Rt 39, traffic will nearly double and the Rt 39 Study suggested
a reduction of commercial traffic on this strip. By changing the zoning of the Yingst
properties, development will be encouraged outside of the growth area. The motion passed unanimously.
C. Ordinance 2005-2, 2005-3, 2005-4 Stormwater Management
& Chapter 168 – It was noted that Chapter 168 was discussed in detail
at the last Planning Commission workshop meeting and Mr. Brulo has incorporated
the revisions into the final draft.
Motion
Chairman Zeiters moved, seconded by Mr. Moyer
to recommend the adoption of Ordinances 2005-02, 2005-3 and 2005-4 as
presented. The motion passed
unanimously.
A.
Discussion –
Conservation District Changes –Mr.
Leonard presented a memo regarding changes to the Conservation Zoning District
brought up by two Board members. Some
discussion occurred. It was agreed this
issue would be further discussed at the April 13, 2005 workshop meeting.
The meeting adjourned at 9:50
p.m.